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[14:50] <shirish_> good evening people.
[14:50] <vikas> hi shirish
[14:51] <shirish_> vikas: hi
[14:51] <shirish_> just putting up an email to the list.
[14:53] <vikas> i wrote a blog post about kodi today - but wordpress lost my draft :(
[14:53] <vikas> will try and rewrite it!
[14:59] <shirish_> that is strange, that should never happen.
[15:00] <shirish_> vikas: did you raise a bug-report for it ?
[15:00] <vikas> i think the session expired midway and when I logged back in, the draft was gone
[15:01] <vikas> so i guess it's not a bug as such
[15:01] <shirish_> umm.... did you save it before session expiry ?
[15:01] <vikas> no
[15:01] <vikas> hence I think it was my fault
[15:01] <shirish_> that explains it.
[15:02] <shirish_> right, right.
[15:02] <vikas> i guess it doesn't have an autosave feature for a draft
[15:02] <shirish_> I think we might also have to tune wordpress a bit.
[15:02] <shirish_> it has, I'm guessing it's not turned on or something
[15:02] <shirish_> also the session bit might be tunable.
[15:03] <shirish_> vikas: do you know what version of wordpress did anant install ?
[15:03] <vikas> no - don't
[15:03] <vikas> would expect it to be latest though
[15:04] <shirish_> umm.... ok. It would be better if he the version numbers did show up on wordpress install, makes it easier to find support and whatever else that is needed.
[15:04] <shirish_> it also has a pretty good plugin and themeing community.
[15:08] <vikas> btw - jessie sync is finished
[15:09] <vikas> I have started work on building a sugam iso using debian packages
[15:09] <vikas> :q
[15:14] <shirish_> don't quit now :)
[15:14] <shirish_> just sent that mail, it looks like mailman 3 is good for us.
[15:16] <shirish_> vikas: I had been waiting for this for last 7 odd years, to see it finally being released today, am a bit overcome.
[15:16] <shirish_> I do hope mailing lists have a resurgence because of it as forums had a slightly bigger hand all these years.
[15:26] <vikas> shirish: i need to take a close look at mailman
[15:26] <shirish_> vikas: sure, go ahead.
[15:26] <vikas> if ti can give us google groups type functionality - then I would favour dropping the forum altogether
[15:27] <vikas> mainly we need to know if a user can use it just via the web interface
[15:27] <shirish_> the feature lists says it does, that is what I recommended too, let's take it for a spin, give it some sort of domain (I hope we do have some reserve domains parked for such usage)
[15:27] <shirish_> let it mirror our existing mail infrastructure and then let all of us test out the various bits and pieces
[15:28] <vikas> i wonder if we can find a demo install somewhere
[15:28] <shirish_> the UI, posting, backup etc. If we find it to be superior than our current methods than let it take over.
[15:29] <vikas> agree
[15:29] <shirish_> umm... I *think* I did share that the some of the fedora 21 lists uses the new mailman 3 interface.
[15:29] <vikas> ok
[15:29] <vikas> let me have a look around too
[15:30] <shirish_> I am in the middle of filing a mailman 3 wishlist bug, gonna take a break for sometime and then will be back.
[15:30] <vikas> ok
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[16:26] <aparna> Hi all
[16:29] <aparna> I was working on bug no 69 and found that there is no configuration file in /etc/nginx/sites-enabled/ folder
[16:30] <aparna> How shall I proceed
[16:31] <aparna> Do you want me to contact diaspora guys for configuration file and then recreate debian package
[16:33] <shirish_> aparna, have you synced to the latest release of diaspora ?
[16:35] <shirish_> the bug is confusing also, do you mean to say there is no configuration file or the configuration file is not the right place.
[16:36] <shirish_> the configuration file you shared for review, where did you get it ?
[16:36] <shirish_> aparna ^
[16:37] <aparna> I have installed version
[16:37] <aparna> http://in.devel.hamaralinux.org/hamara/pool/main/d/diaspora-installer/diaspora-common_0.2+1.0hamara_all.deb
[16:38] <aparna> configuration file which already there is only for nginx, however not for specific site, in this case diaspora
[16:39] <shirish_> umm... so there are two things that can be done.
[16:40] <shirish_> a. rename the bug heading so we know what the issue is, it's confusing there.
[16:40] <shirish_> b. ask the diaspora people for a sample for some $sample site and on the basis of that make one for hamaralinux
[16:41] <shirish_> aparna: what do you think ? ^
[16:41] <aparna> I guess thats what we need to do :)
[16:41] <shirish_> this could also be put up as a sort of bug in their bug-tracker so that there is a sample site already done.
[16:42] <shirish_> would make it easier for the next person who comes along and wants to do it for some $random site.
[16:42] <shirish_> vikas: filed bugs.debian.org/783732
[16:43] <shirish_> sorry it took so long, I had to manually pull in all the dependencies and see they were doing alright and try to show it was a genuine mailman installation.
[16:43] <vikas> am in a meeting at the moment - but just saw this discussion
[16:43] <vikas> I think the diaspora installer maintainer did fix this bug upstream - but I don't think we have rebuilt the package
[16:44] <shirish_> the maintainers do like that if you have the package installed and all the pre-requisites as well as suggests installed too, makes for better response also.
[16:45] <shirish_> vikas: the mailman 3 live demo did you see ? http://lists-dev.cloud.fedoraproject.org/archives/
[16:48] <vikas> ok
[16:48] <vikas> shirish: that looks great
[16:48] <vikas> shirish: solves our purpose
[16:49] <vikas> let me take a look at how to install it
[16:50] <vikas> aparna: my suggestion would be to have a look at the diaspora git repo and see if there are any commits that fix this issue
[16:51] <vikas> aparna: if you cannot find it, then the author is quite helpful. We have given their organisation hosting for http://diasp.in - so I expect they will help you out
[16:51] <aparna> ok I will check
[16:52] <vikas> aparna: I suggest you check git and also try building a new package to verify if this bug is still there before contacting praveen
[16:54] <aparna> vikas: I guess this is where i should check about latest commits
[16:55] <vikas> aparna: yes - that's the place
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[16:56] <aparna> I have'nt build any debian package so I will check with amar or shantanu for further steps.
[16:57] <vikas> aparna: you can find it on our jenkins install
[16:58] <vikas> aparna: ask Amardeep to show you?
[16:58] <aparna> okk :)
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[17:02] <shirish> sorry, net quit on me :(
[17:02] <shirish> but now back :)
[17:03] <vikas> tbs guys just left for the day
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[17:04] <shirish> tbs - to be sad ?
[17:05] <shirish> or you wanted to say tbh - to be honest
[17:05] <shirish> vikas: ^
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[17:13] <shirish__> vikas: let me know when your meeting ends, then we can talk a bit.
[17:13] <vikas> shirish: short of time, have got abt 15 mins now
[17:13] <vikas> am out of mtg
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[17:14] <shirish__> vikas: ok, have you thought of setting up a partial mirror for debian ?
[17:14] <shirish__> has that been discussed ?
[17:15] <vikas> shirish: no it hasn't
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[17:16] <shirish__> ohk.... so probably will need to put it in a thread.
[17:17] <vikas> yeah :)
[17:17] <shirish__> because we will need to discuss which architectures to support, and when to sync
[17:17] <vikas> I am not sure we have extra bandwidth though
[17:17] <shirish__> because believe it or not, debian is updated 4 times in a day,
[17:17] <vikas> and debian does have a lot of mirrors already
[17:18] <vikas> shirish: do you think we should be a debian mirror?
[17:18] <shirish__> then are we just going to provide a snapshot service ?
[17:18] <vikas> shirish: we are not building a copy of debia
[17:18] <vikas> *debian
[17:18] <shirish__> true, but most packages would be based on debian.
[17:18] <vikas> so our repo won't be the same
[17:19] <shirish__> so are we go to be using a different version of compiler, different version of kernel etc. ?
[17:19] <vikas> shirish: kernel is something we quite possibly will want to build
[17:19] <vikas> also a number of other packages have to be build - like firefox or virt-manager
[17:20] <vikas> this list will likely expand
[17:20] <shirish__> but why?
[17:20] <vikas> but there are currently > 50 packages that we do not take from ubuntu
[17:20] <shirish__> aha, is that list put up somewhere.
[17:20] <vikas> i need to get you access to the build system
[17:21] <vikas> but you can see the list in git
[17:21] <shirish__> right.
[17:21] <vikas> agree we should have it on the wiki though
[17:21] <shirish__> what is the git repo. address ?
[17:21] <vikas> git.hamaralinux.org
[17:22] <shirish__> and is it browseable through a browser or do I need to do a clone of it ?
[17:22] <vikas> running gitlab
[17:22] <vikas> ah, i think you need credentials for it
[17:22] <shirish__> right, right.
[17:23] <shirish__> yup, it is asking for credentials to sign in.
[17:23] <shirish__> why have you made the repo. private ?
[17:23] <vikas> https://git.hamaralinux.org/hamara-developers/hamara-packages/tree/development/hamara-packages/1.0
[17:23] <shirish__> do we have any non-free packages therein ?
[17:24] <vikas> I need to go through the build process with you - but am short of time
[17:25] <vikas> the url I have just shared is the hamara packages repo
[17:25] <vikas> we also have helper script repo which is not currently public
[17:25] <vikas> that contains scripts that take upstream source, make branding changes and build new debs
[17:26] <vikas> we also use helpers to patch packages
[17:26] <shirish__> ok cool. that is understood.
[17:26] <shirish__> I do understand the need for branding and making those changes in hamara
[17:26] <vikas> an example is - our helper script for gnome-shell disables the location service - which upstream enable by default
[17:27] <shirish__> actually that is also what is being in debian as well, they also have disabled it
[17:27] <shirish__> that is why I was saying it would be good to be in sync with them, because apart from branding changes there is lot we could re-use from there.
[17:28] <vikas> yes - that's exactly what we are doing atm with ubuntu upstream
[17:28] <shirish__> and also we should try to contribute back, simply because we would be getting more testers therein than here.
[17:28] <vikas> we sync each day from upstream
[17:28] <vikas> but we do not sync any packages that we are building ourselves
[17:29] <vikas> agree - anything that should be pushed upstream, will be
[17:29] <vikas> but so far that changes have not been bug fixes
[17:29] <vikas> another example is our virt-manager patch
[17:30] <vikas> it simply adds Hamara Linux as a linux distro type in virt-manager
[17:30] <shirish__> vikas: that is precisely what I am asking that we do, the branding changes could be put in a sort of patch series that is to be applied whenever a new version comes in.
[17:30] <shirish__> let the bug-fixes flow from debian to us and then let us generate the .deb again with our branding.
[17:30] <shirish__> in that we don't lose any bug-fixes which are applied by debian and we profit from our branding.
[17:31] <vikas> we can configure the existing set up to do exactly that
[17:31] <shirish__> and in case something breaks, we can always file a bug in the debian BTS that hey, this got broke while we were trying to do so and so.
[17:31] <vikas> the only small change on our side is to monitor upstream for new versions of packages that we build
[17:31] <vikas> and then trigger our build instead of pulling the package from upstream
[17:31] <shirish__> that + bug-fixes.
[17:32] <shirish__> because debian does do quite a bit of that, so if somebody else is doing the hard-work then why should we duplicate it.
[17:32] <vikas> i'll set up my debian/sugam build on that basis