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[14:42] <shirish> good evening people.
[14:43] <vikas> hi shirish
[14:43] <vikas> shirish; could do with a bit of help from you
[14:43] <shirish> vikas: hi, just coming in, catching on the bugs.
[14:43] <shirish> vikas: shoot.
[14:43] <shirish> shoot= tell me.
[14:44] <shirish> vikas: ^
[14:44] <vikas> shirish: so yeah - the bugs that I am raising for sugam are all related to packages that i have to remove from hamara-sugam's meta package
[14:44] <vikas> mainly because they do not exist in debian
[14:44] <shirish> vikas: ok, right.
[14:44] <vikas> to make the job a bit quicker it would help me if you can research along side me
[14:45] <vikas> for example - the one I am on now
[14:45] <vikas> system-config-printer-gnome
[14:45] <vikas> we added this to sugam, because lxde does not have a nice way to configure printers
[14:45] <shirish> vikas: there is system-config-printer in Debian
[14:45] <vikas> cool
[14:45] <vikas> so the fix in this case is for me to pull the other package
[14:46] <vikas> some of these changes will be that easy
[14:46] <vikas> but earlier I had lightdm-webkit-greeter
[14:46] <vikas> and casper
[14:46] <shirish> [$] aptitude search system-config-printer
[14:46] <shirish>
[14:46] <shirish> p system-config-printer - graphical interface to configure the printing system
[14:46] <shirish> p system-config-printer-udev - Utilities to detect and configure printers automatically
[14:46] <vikas> casper - i have replaced with live-boot
[14:47] <vikas> shirish: perfect, making it so
[14:47] <shirish> vikas: no issues with that. there is just one thing you need to care of, if that happens then this will be easy to tackle anytime.
[14:48] <vikas> this is where I am working:
[14:48] <vikas> https://git.hamaralinux.org/vik/hamara-packages/blob/development-debian/hamara-packages/1.0/hamara-meta/debian/control
[14:48] <shirish> vikas: gimme couple of minutes, writing on a bug and then searching for the other bug which you need to take care of, once that is done, we can go full speed ahead.
[14:48] <vikas> ok
[14:49] <shirish> vikas: although I would suggest not to have everything targeted to a single metapackage
[14:49] <vikas> we don't
[14:49] <vikas> we have packages listed inside that main meta package
[14:49] <vikas> see Package: hamara-sugam
[14:49] <shirish> ah ok, then it's good. what is always better to have multiple meta-packages.
[14:49] <vikas> true
[14:49] <vikas> we could do that in due course
[14:50] <vikas> i mean split them out
[14:51] <shirish> that is what I wanted
[14:51] <vikas> next one
[14:51] <vikas> apturl
[14:51] <shirish> the reason is so the distro. can simply pick and choose
[14:52] <shirish> I have already shared the solution, just needs somebody who implements it.
[14:52] <shirish> apturl is not in Debian.
[14:53] <vikas> what I am doing is working along this logic:
[14:53] <vikas> - does it exist in debian?
[14:53] <vikas> - if not - is there an equivalent
[14:53] <vikas> - if not, remove it and raise a bug to discuss implementing it or an alternative
[14:53] <shirish> vikas: understood. there might be an equivalent provided we know what the package does.
[14:55] <vikas> i don't see an alternative in debian
[14:55] <vikas> so will remove this from meta and raise a bug to discuss if we should package it
[14:56] <shirish> sure, both apturl and aptlinex are not there in debian.
[15:00] <shirish> vikas: replying on the bug itself.
[15:00] <vikas> shirish: next is indicator-messages
[15:00] <shirish> that is in debian.
[15:02] <shirish> vikas: ^
[15:03] <vikas> not in jessie
[15:03] <vikas> or it's called something else
[15:03] <shirish> vikas: gimme 2-3 minutes and then give a list, if there are some which are not in Debian, would raise a bug on the bugzilla instance.
[15:03] <vikas> problem is, i am coming across them one by one
[15:04] <vikas> but you can see the corresponding bugs I am raising against sugam
[15:04] <shirish> vikas: ohk... indicator-messages is right now in sid/unstable.
[15:04] <vikas> ok
[15:04] <shirish> vikas: let me find more details about the package.
[15:04] <vikas> so I am removing indicator messages and raising a bug
[15:04] <vikas> comment that bug with what u can find?
[15:05] <shirish> sure, will do.
[15:05] <shirish> the package has lot of history.
[15:08] <shirish> vikas: replied on bug 152
[15:08] <shirish> vikas: do you want me to open a bug on indicator-messages ?
[15:08] <vikas> your call
[15:09] <shirish> lol, you filed 153
[15:09] <vikas> sorry - i thought u mean't on debians tracker
[15:09] <shirish> vikas: it would certainly be nice if hamarabot could give us these indications.
[15:09] <vikas> next is firefox..
[15:10] <vikas> we currently build firefox from ubuntu source packages
[15:10] <vikas> oops - just seen the time - have to pick my son up from school! back in 15 mins or so
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[15:12] <shirish> vikas: cool, no issues, replied on #bug 153
[15:13] <shirish> amardeep: hey :)
[15:19] <amardeep> shirish: hi
[15:20] <shirish> amardeep: good to see you, are you familiar with workings of hamarabot ?
[15:20] <shirish> amardeep: if yes, maybe you can help with http://bugs.hamaralinux.org/show_bug.cgi?id=138
[15:21] <amardeep> shirish: sure I can check
[15:21] <amardeep> give me 5 mins
[15:21] <shirish> this would make hamarabot much more useful than simply recording the log as it does, which is useful but would be better.
[15:21] <shirish> amardeep: sure, thanx.
[15:24] <shirish> amardeep: there is something called bugzilla-linker but can't find the code or binary for it, hunting on github.com
[15:25] <amardeep> shirish - ok
[15:32] <vikas> amardeep, shirish: hamarabot is using eggdrop
[15:33] <vikas> it's currently running from web.hamaralinux.org - you'll see a process running under my user
[15:36] <amardeep> vikas: sure
[15:36] <shirish> vikas: ah yes, seems only single developer or something and they use antiquated cvs.
[15:36] <vikas> shirish: it was the easier bot to setup in the end
[15:36] <vikas> shirish: i did try a couple
[15:37] <vikas> happy for it to be replaced
[15:37] <shirish> vikas: not complaing, just stating the fact.
[15:37] <vikas> don't worry - i have no love for eggbot in particular :)
[15:39] <shirish> there are so many, damn. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_Internet_Relay_Chat_bots
[15:40] <shirish> would share all this info. then on the bug.
[15:40] <shirish> vikas: which is the next one in your list ?
[15:43] <vikas> am just building and pushing a new hamara-meta package
[15:43] <vikas> this will give me an updated list
[15:44] <vikas> i have to leave for an appointment - but let me try and get this list before I go
[15:45] <vikas> ok - have cleared all the dep issues in hamara-sugam
[15:45] <vikas> but there are some in hamara-sugam-data
[15:45] <vikas> need to move to those next
[15:46] <vikas> i am out of time for now - but if anyone wants to continue checking and posting on the mailing list, that would be helpful
[15:47] <vikas> actually - scratch that last comment
[15:47] <vikas> i can see the fixes for hamara-sugam-data
[15:47] <vikas> i will try to continue with this after an hour or so
[15:48] <vikas> out for now..
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[16:21] <shirish> amardeep: just ping me when you are back
[16:37] <shirish> going for dinner, bbi 10-15 mins. at the latest.
[16:42] <amardeep> shirish: got stuck somwhere
[16:42] <amardeep> shirish: I'll check that plugin thing
[16:52] <shirish> back :)
[16:52] <shirish> amardeep: no issues.
[16:53] <shirish> amardeep: have listed a few bots at #bug 132 which could do the needful.
[16:53] <amardeep> shirish: thanks for that
[16:53] <shirish> amardeep: do you know if any features besides logging hamarabot performs ?
[16:53] <amardeep> I'll have a look as soon as I get free
[16:53] <shirish> sure
[16:53] <amardeep> shirish: not at the moment
[16:54] <shirish> ok
[16:54] <amardeep> shirish: I have not looked at it extensively
[16:54] <shirish> perhaps if vikas joins us then we will know, till then will see what other IRC bots offer.
[16:55] <amardeep> I'll be leaving home in 5 mins
[16:55] <amardeep> will try to catch up from home
[16:55] <amardeep> and meanwhile check what bot offers
[16:56] <amardeep> shirish: vikas also wanted to discuss about firefox on debian
[16:56] <amardeep> shirish: because its not in debian repo
[16:56] <shirish> amardeep: yup, know that, let him come
[16:56] <shirish> amardeep: it's there, just listed as iceweasel.
[16:56] <amardeep> shirish: so name is changed?
[16:56] <shirish> iceweasel = firefox + debian patches.
[16:56] <shirish> amardeep: ^
[16:57] <amardeep> shirish : ah!
[16:57] <shirish> the MPL forbids any addition to the binary
[16:57] <shirish> hence the need to remove branding of firefox.
[16:57] <amardeep> understand
[16:57] <shirish> It is publicly documented, let me find it in few minutes.
[16:58] <amardeep> then its staright forward for vikas to add that
[17:00] <amardeep> shirish: great
[17:01] <shirish> amardeep: they have packaged a great many extensions too, let Vikas come and then we can talk about that.
[17:01] <amardeep> ok cool
[17:01] <amardeep> leaving now...catch you later
[17:01] <shirish> amardeep: because I don't know if any addons were packaged in hamara.
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[17:01] <shirish> amardeep: sure, tk care, good night.
[17:02] <amardeep> addons as in
[17:02] <amardeep> extensions pre-loaded
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[17:02] <amardeep> shirish: as far as I remember
[17:03] <amardeep> we was just re-branding default firefox
[17:03] <amardeep> so nothing additional added
[17:03] <shirish> amardeep: ah ok, it's not additional added, it's making sure that the extensions have gone through security-support, mostly a trust issue.
[17:04] <amardeep> right
[17:04] <shirish> and debian-policy does have lot of hardening so package quality is better than taking from anywhere else.
[17:04] <amardeep> no doubt about that
[17:05] <shirish> almost 80 odd extensions packaged so far.
[17:06] <shirish> skins/themes would be another 10-20.
[17:06] <amardeep> cool
[17:07] <amardeep> bye for now..good night..catch later
[17:07] <shirish> bye... catch you later, tk care.
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[17:40] <vikas> shirish: sorry, couldn't make it back here in time.
[17:41] <vikas> Just an update for the log
[17:41] <vikas> I replaced Firefox with iceweasel for now.
[17:42] <vikas> We can decide final strategy in due course.
[17:42] <vikas> Catch up tomorrow.
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[17:49] <shirish> ok cool. have been working on the minetest thing so didn't catch you.
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