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[14:34] <sha123> hi all, shirish here
[14:34] <sha123> quassel has burned down (actually segfaulted) hence using pidgin now.
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[14:47] <vikas> aparna, libregeekingkid: task for you both now
[14:47] <vikas> build #37 live mode will boot as far as an lxde login box
[14:47] <vikas> it appears that the default live user is not being configured properly
[14:48] <sha123> vikas: hey, good to see you, shirish here, issue with quassel and didn't want to configure pidgin hence used a non-registered a/c
[14:49] <vikas> sha123: hi - yeah saw your info
[14:50] <libregeekingkid> vikas: WHere do we configure default user and his passwd
[14:50] <libregeekingkid> ?
[14:50] <vikas> aparna, libregeekingkid: live-boot *should* have defaults - but they are not working for me
[14:50] <vikas> libregeekingkid: that's what I want you to figure out ;)
[14:51] <vikas> libregeekingkid: you could look at the live-boot docu
[14:51] <libregeekingkid> if you see the login screen, it is having dev at the top left
[14:51] <vikas> libregeekingkid: yep
[14:51] <vikas> libregeekingkid: I suspect that is the hostname?
[14:53] <vikas> libregeekingkid: the boot parameter "live" will make the system call live-initramfs
[14:54] <libregeekingkid> vikas: http://live.debian.net/manual/stable/html/live-manual/customizing-run-time-behaviours.en.html
[14:54] <vikas> which searches the disk for a "live" folder that contains a squashfs
[14:54] <vikas> libregeekingkid: cool, your on the right track
[14:55] <vikas> libregeekingkid: now go figure out where this should be added in our process :)
[14:55] <vikas> libregeekingkid: if you can determine where this config should be placed
[14:56] <vikas> i'll tell you how to get it there
[14:56] <libregeekingkid> vikas: fine, I'll read the manual now
[14:56] <vikas> important part at the top of that document
[14:56] <vikas> "One important consideration is that the live user is created by live-boot at boot time, not by live-build at build time. "
[14:57] <libregeekingkid> vikas: yup
[14:57] <libregeekingkid> vikas: I am having a question here
[14:58] <vikas> ok
[14:58] <vikas> libregeekingkid: go for it
[15:00] <libregeekingkid> I followed the debian live build tutorials to generate some ISOs based on Debian, according to the manual we first do an "lb config"
[15:00] <libregeekingkid> lb config creates the basic configuration setup for the iso
[15:01] <libregeekingkid> If we want to make changes to the iso we make changes to the files created by lb config
[15:01] <libregeekingkid> and then we issue "lb build" to make get our ISO
[15:02] <libregeekingkid> now comparing this with our approach,
[15:02] <vikas> most of those tools are wrapper scripts
[15:02] <libregeekingkid> I took a look at our makeiso script
[15:03] <libregeekingkid> for generating the iso we are using mkisofs
[15:03] <libregeekingkid> and before that we are generating the squashfs using mksquashfs
[15:04] <vikas> yes
[15:04] <vikas> so lbbuild will be calling similar commands underneath
[15:04] <libregeekingkid> ohh
[15:04] <libregeekingkid> ok
[15:06] <libregeekingkid> now I got whats exactly is a wrapper script
[15:07] <vikas> libregeekingkid: we might see an error in the boot up - but it runs too fast for me to read
[15:08] <vikas> libregeekingkid: that's another place you could look to debug this default user issue?
[15:08] <libregeekingkid> vikas: will the boot log be generated somewhere
[15:08] <vikas> yes it will - but without being able to authenticate - it's not easy to rwad it
[15:08] <vikas> *read
[15:09] <sha123> it should actually, in systemd if we are using it.
[15:09] <sha123> or even bootlogd if we have that.
[15:10] <vikas> sha123: the problem is not being able to login - because the live system default user isn't working
[15:11] <vikas> sha123: so no obvious way to reach the log
[15:11] <sha123> ah yes, I was thinking when logged in.
[15:11] <sha123> right, right
[15:11] <vikas> sha123: reading the log during boot is not feasabile
[15:12] <sha123> I have read and seen people using the serial interface from another machine to catch the booting and see where it's failing
[15:12] <vikas> but if they're we're somehow a way to make it say, interactive, during the boot process...
[15:12] <vikas> sha123: we are booting inside vm's - so we can see the console
[15:12] <sha123> there is way to make it interactive, I have read it, just need to find it again.
[15:13] <vikas> of course there is ;)
[15:13] <vikas> i just want somoene else to find it and do it :)
[15:13] <vikas> another way is to get the boot process to stop on error
[15:14] <vikas> so sha123, libregeekingkid and aparna: i think between you three - you should be able to solve this?
[15:14] <sha123> BOOT_DEBUG=3
[15:15] <vikas> sorry - that seems to be for configuring the installer
[15:15] <vikas> we are using live-boot rather than the installer
[15:15] <vikas> plus it isn't lack of logging that's the problem
[15:15] <libregeekingkid> vikas: yup we'll do.
[15:15] <sha123> ah ok.
[15:15] <libregeekingkid> I am out for dinner
[15:15] <vikas> the problem is that you cannot read the log - as at the end of the boot process it starts x
[15:16] <libregeekingkid> will get back soon
[15:16] <vikas> libregeekingkid: no worries - i may not be here - but I think you guys can move ahead with this stage
[15:16] <libregeekingkid> vikas: yup
[15:16] <aparna> vikas : we are checking it and we will do it.
[15:17] <vikas> small hint - we we're previously using ubuntu casper to achieve live booting
[15:17] <vikas> so you could look at the different branches to see how it was achieved before
[15:17] <vikas> live-boot on debian is a fork of ubunt casper
[15:17] <sha123> libregeekingkid: aparna: which version of debian-live we are using 2,3 or 4 ?
[15:18] <vikas> sha123: our base is jessie
[15:18] <vikas> sha123: we're using all package versions in line with jessie 8.0
[15:18] <libregeekingkid> sha123: will need to check for that on the build server
[15:18] <vikas> libregeekingkid: see my comment about jessie 8.0
[15:24] <vikas> will read logs to see how you guys get on - post on mailing list if you need help
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[15:32] <sha123> libregeekingkid: did you see 7.0 Customization overview
[15:32] <sha123> see "Boot-time options are further divided into those occurring early in the boot, applied by
[15:32] <sha123> the live-boot package" - live manual
[15:33] <sha123> so probably something that can be done via live-boot and some boot parameter ?
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[15:36] <sha123> libregeekingkid_: ^
[15:36] <libregeekingkid_> Can't see previous
[15:36] <libregeekingkid_> On phone
[15:37] <sha123> ohk, didn't know
[15:37] <sha123> (19:51:44) vikas: libregeekingkid: see my comment about jessie 8.0
[15:37] <sha123> (19:57:08) vikas: will read logs to see how you guys get on - post on mailing list if you need help
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[15:37] <sha123> (20:05:14) sha123: libregeekingkid: did you see 7.0 Customization overview
[15:37] <sha123> (20:05:46) sha123: see "Boot-time options are further divided into those occurring early in the boot, applied by
[15:37] <sha123> (20:05:46) sha123: the live-boot package" - live manual
[15:37] <sha123> (20:06:09) sha123: so probably something that can be done via live-boot and some boot parameter ?
[15:39] <libregeekingkid_> Sha123 will take a look later
[15:40] <sha123> sure
[15:47] <sha123> it seems while booting, the logs are at /var/log/live/
[15:56] <sha123> I'll have to read the manual from starting, it's huge, it's there somewhere but need to get how things work.
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[15:58] <vikas> anant, aparna: can you guys take a look at syncing the repo at http://devel.hamaralinux.org/hamara-sugam
[15:59] <vikas> this is on my server - but you could do with a local copy
[15:59] <vikas> it will make it much faster for you guys to build and test iso images without having to go to jenkins
[15:59] <anant> vikas: what we need to do actually ?
[15:59] <anant> ok
[15:59] <vikas> anant: amardeep can guide you
[15:59] <anant> ok
[16:00] <sha123> should be git clone and git up from time-to-time
[16:04] <libregeekingkid> I m back
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[16:05] <vikas> sha123: debian repo this time - not git repo ;)
[16:06] <sha123> vikas: but even then the debian repo. is maintained via git, IIRC.
[16:07] <sha123> so all git commands will be used 'git clone repo name, git pull origin master, git commit' and so on and so forth.
[16:08] <sha123> I have aliased git pull origin master > git up so remember that all the time.
[16:11] <sha123> back to reading the manual.
[16:12] <vikas> sha123: you don't need git if you are mirroring a repo
[16:12] <sha123> ah, then probably using rsync or something similar.
[16:13] <vikas> reprepro
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[16:15] <vikas> libregeekingkid: have an idea for you
[16:15] <vikas> and aparna
[16:15] <vikas> libregeekingkid: see #345 in makeiso
[16:17] <libregeekingkid> vikas: that was a big clue
[16:17] <vikas> so before we we're creating a casper.conf
[16:18] <vikas> now we should be creating /etc/live/config/user-setup.conf
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[16:18] <vikas> as per http://live.debian.net/manual/stable/html/live-manual/customizing-run-time-behaviours
[16:19] <vikas> i think you can have a go at that?
[16:19] <vikas> i will leave that with you - am off now
[16:19] <vikas> see you all here tomorrow
[16:20] <vikas> libregeekingkid, aparna: ask amardeep if you are stuck
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[16:30] <sha1231> this reprepro is good, at least checkupdate, will need to try out something small from somewhere to get a sense of the tool but I like it.
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