[16:52] <shirish>  vikas1: I know, that's why telling libregeekingkid that there are two sides of how you want to view him.
 [16:52] <shirish>  it's upto him to take a call on that on how he views it.
 [16:52] <vikas1>  note to self: stop making obscure historical comments
 [16:52] <vikas1>  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Let_them_eat_cake
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 [16:53] <libregeekingkid>  shirish: vikas1 We can do this debate whole night. I see him as a hero.
 [16:53] <vikas1>  seems like this is the most people in the hamara IRC
 [16:53] <vikas1>  in such an auspicious day too
 [16:54] <shirish>  libregeekingkid: there is no debate, he is the hero.
 [16:54] <libregeekingkid>  vikas1: We are increasing
 [16:54] <vikas1>  libregeekingkid: yeah - am on the same page as you
 [16:54] <vikas1>  libregeekingkid: thanks to your guys efforts
 [16:54] <libregeekingkid>  just got mandiv in
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 [16:54] <mandiv>  HELLO
 [16:54] <libregeekingkid>  mandiv: Hi
 [16:54] <vikas1>  hi mandiv
 [16:54] <shirish>  mandiv: hey :)
 [16:55] <vikas1>  i am about to leave the party though - my kids are gonna be annoyed if I don't get the fire going
 [16:55] <vikas1>  will post some pics :)
 [16:55] <libregeekingkid>  So you guys decided up on the name
 [16:55] <shirish>  enjoy, we would have diwali soon enough.
 [16:55] <libregeekingkid>  any names yet
 [16:55] <vikas1>  libregeekingkid: nah - not yet - we're just talking of concepts
 [16:55] <shirish>  libregeekingkid: mandiv: please see irclogs.haramaralinux.org/
 [16:55] <vikas1>  you guys go for it - i gotta leave - maybe catch u here tomorrow
 [16:55] <shirish>  and today's archive so you will have some idea till what we talked about.
 [16:56] <shirish>  vikas1: tk care... enjoy and have fun :)
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 [16:56] <shirish>  AFK for 2 minutes.
 [16:56] <mandiv>  YES SHIRISH
 [16:56] <shirish>  mandiv: you don't need to write in caps
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 [16:56] <mandiv>  ohh
 [16:56] <shirish>  writing in caps is termed shouting, either in IRC or in mailing list
 [16:57] <shirish>  that's much better.
 [16:57] <shirish>  akshat: welcome, hi :)
 [16:57] <mandiv>  ohh sorry
 [16:57] <libregeekingkid>  welcome akshat
 [16:57] <libregeekingkid>  welcome bizzard
 [16:57] <akshat>  hello all
 [16:58] <shirish>  akshat: have a look at irclogs.hamaralinux.org and have a look at today's archive
 [16:58] <shirish>  so you will know what we talked about.
 [16:58] <shirish>  we need to think of a name for firefox browser in hindi and have it nothing to do with mozilla
 [16:58] <libregeekingkid>  I am reading the logs. there are hillarious discussions between vik and jonas
 [17:00] <shirish>  AFK, bbiaw
 [17:02] <libregeekingkid>  mandiv: akshat Any name suggestions for a browser in Hindi
 [17:02] <libregeekingkid>  ?
 [17:02] <mandiv>  it should be bharari in marathi
 [17:02] <libregeekingkid>  or marathi or any other language as well.
 [17:03] <mandiv>  find hindi eqvlnt
 [17:03] <libregeekingkid>  sgk: Are you here
 [17:03] <libregeekingkid>  mandiv: Why a hindi equivalent?
 [17:03] <libregeekingkid>  Why can't it be in marathi as well.
 [17:04] <mandiv>  so we can keep it bharari
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 [17:04] <libregeekingkid>  mandiv: Lets get names from other languages as well.
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 [17:05] <mandiv>  is it good idea to keep diffrant name for same browser
 [17:07] <shirish>  back
 [17:07] <libregeekingkid>  mandiv: We are planning a fork of Firefox. So we can change the name & do the modifications
 [17:08] <akshat>  I think name of the browser should be unique but we can have the term browser localized.
 [17:08] <shirish>  mandiv: there are other issues as well.
 [17:08] <shirish>  mandiv: I don't think you have read MPL
 [17:08] <mandiv>  in hindi it can be 2> !<>(
 [17:09] <libregeekingkid>  mandiv: bad name :(
 [17:09] <shirish>  Mozilla Public License 2.1 basically states that you need to distribute mozilla code with mozilla branding then only you can call it mozilla
 [17:09] <shirish>  otherwise not.
 [17:09] <mandiv>  which one
 [17:09] <shirish>  so if we are going to use hamara branding we can't use mozilla as the name.
 [17:10] <libregeekingkid>  I am out from here. Good night guys
 [17:10] <shirish>  libregeekingkid: good night.
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 [17:10] <mandiv>  no i am saying that
 [17:10] <shirish>  umm.... let's not jump to the browser name as of yet, wdyt we could call 'Internet' in Hindi/Marathi
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 [17:11] <mandiv>  in raju is saying bhrari is in marathi and suggest in other languages also
 [17:11] <shirish>  is there any other term/word that would explain 'Internet' to people.
 [17:11] <shirish>  mandiv: what does 'bhrari' mean in marathi ?
 [17:11] <shirish>  I don't know the term hence asking.
 [17:11] <mandiv>  bharari is marathi word
 [17:12] <shirish>  mandiv: are manjhe kay
 [17:12] <mandiv>  means udan in hindi
 [17:12] <shirish>  mandiv: ah ok
 [17:12] <shirish>  that is an abstract term
 [17:12] <akshat>  udan is different from the concept of browser
 [17:13] <mandiv>  apan browser waprun internet madhe udan karato
 [17:13] <shirish>  when you are naming a product, people usually make/use a name around which you could make a logo, a mascot and do whatever with it.
 [17:13] <akshat>  browser doesn't jumps. we can't call them chalang or udaan.
 [17:14] <akshat>  we can take some term from Sanskrit also.
 [17:14] <shirish>  so it needs to be specific
 [17:14] <mandiv>  akshat:thats a good idea
 [17:14] <shirish>  for internet I could think about 'Aakash Ganga' which is just as big or bigger than what Internet means and is very near to Internet.
 [17:15] <akshat>  yes and it should give the intuition that this term is meant for browser.
 [17:16] <shirish>  what would be spaceship be in hindi/sanskrit.
 [17:16] <shirish>  the only term that comes to my mind is 'udan khatula' but that is old hindi.
 [17:16] <shirish>  we need something fresh.
 [17:17] <shirish>  think guys... think.
 [17:18] <shirish>  I'll also put whatever we talk about in an email in sometime, maybe we could get some more ideas.
 [17:19] <akshat>  maybe antriksh wahan...
 [17:19] <shirish>  the term which is used to equate Internet in hindi is 'mahajaal'
 [17:19] <shirish>  akshat: go on...
 [17:20] <akshat>  Its not sounding good
 [17:20] <shirish>  it is two words
 [17:20] <shirish>  it should be a single word/term.
 [17:20] <akshat>  we can deduce ours
 [17:20] <shirish>  also wahan is not hamara, it is too polite.
 [17:21] <shirish>  we need words which also bring a sense of closeness with it.
 [17:21] <mandiv>  agniyan
 [17:21] <mandiv>  agniyan = rocket
 [17:22] <akshat>  what about antrikshyaan
 [17:22] <akshat>  thats a spaceship
 [17:22] <mandiv>  it is good but long
 [17:23] <akshat>  rocket and spaceship are different
 [17:23] <shirish>  actually agniyan could be a good contendor, it is short.
 [17:24] <shirish>  and it also talks of fire = agni as well as talks of speed which can be equated to browser speed.
 [17:24] <shirish>  that could be a good one.
 [17:24] <mandiv>  yup
 [17:25] <mandiv>  aksht: what do you say?
 [17:26] <mandiv>  akshat:
 [17:26] <akshat>  yup
 [17:27] <akshat>  can we relate something related with the speed of light
 [17:28] <akshat>  prakashveg
 [17:28] <shirish>  akshat: yes, go ahead... why not.
 [17:28] <shirish>  prakash = light veg ?
 [17:29] <shirish>  or you meant prakashvign ?
 [17:29] <akshat>  not vegetarian wala veg :-)
 [17:29] <akshat>  veg that is spwed
 [17:29] <akshat>  raftaar
 [17:30] <akshat>  Prakashvaeg
 [17:30] <akshat>  may we can spell something like that
 [17:31] <shirish>  umm... ok... still not buying it... but we could put it up.
 [17:32] <shirish>  it could also be done with something close to 'hamara' or culture thing too.
 [17:32] <akshat>  yes lets think other names too
 [17:32] <akshat>  may be Sanskrit will be the best language to take the terms
 [17:43] <akshat>  whst about pravega which means high speed in Sanskrit
 [17:43] <akshat>  Chapal/Chapala - swift, lightning
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