[16:55] <vikas> has anyone got a working chroot?
[16:56] <isaagar> vikas: packages are still downloading thats why
[16:56] <krishnakant> I think mine works
[16:56] <isaagar> anyone know size of the chroot file system
[16:57] <canaar> vikas: Is this channel logged somewhere? I'll read and follow up
[16:57] <navin> isaagar: i think our net's too fast :p
[16:57] <libregeekingkid> isaagar: mine is showing the size 1.2 GB
[16:57] <krishnakant> navin: r u sure?
[16:57] <isaagar> navin: may be its airtel 5G
[16:57] <libregeekingkid> canaar: It is logged
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[16:58] <canaar> thanks
[16:58] <navin> krishnakant: was kidding
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[16:58] <isaagar> libregeekingkid: lot for me
[16:58] <krishnakant> vikas: what next?
[16:59] <ishan> signing off for now coz cannot continue due to fever. Will definitely take notes from krishnakant and navin.
[16:59] <krishnakant> navin: these scripts are actually the ones used for building the distro
[16:59] <ishan> bye everyone
[16:59] <vikas> ishan: no worries, get well soon
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[16:59] <krishnakant> ishan: bye
[16:59] <libregeekingkid> canaar: i am also making notes to be put up on wiki, here https://pad.disroot.org/p/hamaraContributorMeeting29Dec2015
[17:00] <krishnakant> good job
[17:00] <vikas> next you need to install further packages in the chroot that will allow the iso to build
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[17:00] <vikas> am just getting the list
[17:01] <krishnakant> vikas: what are those packages?
[17:01] <vikas> apt-get install debootstrap syslinux squashfs-tools genisoimage casper
[17:01] <vikas> SORRY
[17:01] <vikas> drop casper
[17:02] <navin> krishnakant: its just like docker
[17:02] <vikas> apt-get install debootstrap syslinux squashfs-tools genisoimage
[17:02] <krishnakant> navin: this was the kind of thing I did for bilding the remade iso for sndt
[17:02] <vikas> krishnakant: docker is based on chroot right?
[17:02] <navin> nope
[17:02] <krishnakant> I had guessed it just missed debootstrap
[17:03] <isaagar> got chroot working
[17:03] <krishnakant> vikas: navin knows this I am not the right expert on docker
[17:03] <navin> vikas: we just create a new minimal os on a base image
[17:03] <vikas> let me know if anyoe has errors installing those packages
[17:03] <krishnakant> vikas: all done
[17:03] <krishnakant> I had started before u gave the list just missed one package so mine is done
[17:03] <vikas> navin: docker may be a better way for hamara devs, am open to suggestions there
[17:04] <krishnakant> navin: vikas we seldum have issues with the gui in docker though
[17:04] <vikas> if everyone is ready, we can move on
[17:04] <navin> vikas: i think docker is very good for server based applications
[17:04] <krishnakant> @Right navin
[17:04] <navin> just not for GUI
[17:05] <navin> Atleast right now
[17:05] <navin> docker guys are working on it as well
[17:06] <vikas> IMPORTANT make sure your in the correct branch
[17:07] <vikas> hamara_sugam is being developed in the development_debian branch
[17:07] <vikas> so do
[17:07] <vikas> git checkout development_debian
[17:07] <canaar> How much does the debootstrap download? I got limited data...
[17:07] <krishnakant> do all know the command to check the current branch?
[17:07] <navin> git branch
[17:08] <vikas> canaar: the debootstrap doesn't need much - but the iso build will pull the whole distro - you don't want to do that if you have limited data
[17:08] <vikas> it's git checkout development_debian
[17:08] <canaar> vikas: Okay.
[17:09] <libregeekingkid> canaar: vikas it is git checkout development-debian (The Underscore)
[17:09] <vikas> libregeekingkid: yes - you are correct
[17:09] <vikas> so now we should be set to build the iso
[17:10] <vikas> this is going to take time and download a lot of packages
[17:10] <vikas> I suggest we run the iso build - see if it bombs out because your missing something
[17:10] <vikas> and if not - allow the builds to run
[17:10] <krishnakant> my net is stuck badly
[17:10] <vikas> and post your results on the mailing list
[17:10] <isaagar> vikas: do i need to clone hamara-makeso
[17:11] <vikas> isaagar: yes - everyone needs to clone hamara-makeiso inside the chroot
[17:11] <isaagar> okay
[17:11] <vikas> once you have that switch branch to development-debian
[17:11] <vikas> and then do
[17:11] <libregeekingkid> isaagar: clone your fork of hamara-makeiso
[17:11] <krishnakant> navin: you know this is some thing which distro builders do to assemble the thing
[17:12] <navin> yup
[17:12] <vikas> /bin/bash ./makeiso.sh all amd64 hamara-sugam namaste devel.hamaralinux.org
[17:12] <krishnakant> navin: it is going to be usefull when we have a lot of things happening
[17:12] <navin> similar to dockerfiles
[17:12] <vikas> this command will start the build
[17:12] <krishnakant> we may have various hamara including low memory and high memory use.
[17:13] <krishnakant> navin: yes yes u r right/
[17:15] <vikas> let me know once you have run the build command
[17:15] <krishnakant> I think it is going to take a long time because net is a bit slow
[17:15] <krishnakant> I should have been at abhijeet's place for this
[17:16] <vikas> once it's running I am proposing to end the session
[17:16] <vikas> as the build will take a while
[17:16] <krishnakant> vikas: I think it is slowing down and may be I will get disconnected
[17:16] <vikas> if everyone could post their outcomes on the mailing list - we can solve any issues that way
[17:16] <jonas> I dearly recommend to use approx - won't help for initial deboostrap but for subsequent ones (and when you develop you likely will need to run multiple times)
[17:16] <krishnakant> I think this is what I was about to suggest that we do this
[17:17] <krishnakant> for me it is very important to build becasue because I must look at the accessibility part as well.
[17:17] <krishnakant> vikas: I am really impressed and touched about your sensitivity about accessibility
[17:17] <vikas> jonas: that's awsome - i didn't know about it - that saves us a bunch of time
[17:17] <vikas> libregeekingkid: can u add a note on the pad
[17:18] <krishnakant> vikas: jonas we can also have an aptoncd with necessary packages
[17:18] <jonas> 1) apt install approx, 2) uncomment at least the plain debian entry in /etc/approx/whatever-is-the-name-of-the-configfile, 2) instruct debootstrap (and /etc/apt/sources.list too) to use 127.0.0.1:9999/debian as repo
[17:19] <krishnakant> jonas: this is actually what we do on a lot of college networks where we deploy linux
[17:19] <libregeekingkid> vikas: Yes I am adding a note to it.
[17:19] <jonas> libregeekingkid has a working approx setup, in case above micro-howto doesn't work
[17:19] <krishnakant> it is a brillient idea
[17:19] <libregeekingkid> jonas: That system was a sid, its not even booting now
[17:20] <jonas> christ - you already broke that setup? :-P
[17:20] <vikas> jonas: I don't know what he does with all these machines - but they get broken quickly :)
[17:21] <libregeekingkid> jonas: I broke hell on my stretch/sid partition with a lot of configurations
[17:21] <vikas> I am out of time I'm afraid
[17:21] <isaagar> jonas: thats great !!!!
[17:21] <vikas> but I think we got to the end of today's session anyhow?
[17:21] <krishnakant> vikas: my internet is fluctuating
[17:22] <libregeekingkid> vikas: I am adding a note to the pad, Will add this to the wiki as well.
[17:22] <vikas> could everyone post their results on the dev mailing list please
[17:22] <krishnakant> vikas: yes I think now we must get the task to the end
[17:22] <krishnakant> and post our results
[17:22] <jonas> libregeekingkid: I bet you should blame your infecting the system with virtualbox sources :-P
[17:22] <vikas> I will organise a follow up session in the next week
[17:22] <navin> Sure
[17:22] <krishnakant> vikas: and do write to me about our venture
[17:23] <vikas> where we will move on to making a change in sugam
[17:23] <jonas> another tools I can recommend to use with debootstrap is eatmydata
[17:23] <krishnakant> vikas: what will be our mutual exprestation and also how we make our joint venture let me know all details soon
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[17:23] <vikas> and getting that change into the package repo
[17:23] <vikas> krishnakant: yes - i'll come back on that by weekend
[17:24] <vikas> any questions before i sign off?
[17:24] <krishnakant> vikas: make sure you have navin and ishan on cc
[17:24] <isaagar> at this moment may be no questions
[17:24] <krishnakant> vikas: and the gnukhata thing also we can discuss, but I feel the priority should be the joint hacker space which can go a long way in organizing things
[17:25] <vikas> krishnakant: agree
[17:25] <libregeekingkid> vikas: Access to the build servers to contributors?
[17:25] <vikas> isaagar: no probs
[17:25] <vikas> libregeekingkid: in the next session
[17:25] <libregeekingkid> vikas: Ok, cool with that
[17:25] <vikas> libregeekingkid: I would rather have build server plus remote virtualsiation
[17:25] <libregeekingkid> vikas: Good Night then
[17:26] <vikas> so people can build and test on the remote machine
[17:26] <libregeekingkid> vikas: yeah.
[17:26] <vikas> ohterwise remote build doesn;t help that much
[17:26] <vikas> because you have to download the iso
[17:26] <krishnakant> (null)
[17:26] <vikas> krishnakant: ok, will do
[17:26] <vikas> that's me done for now then - thanks everyone for taking the time to attend
[17:27] <navin> Thanks
[17:27] <navin> good night
[17:27] <vikas> it's really encouraging to see new people coming forwards
[17:27] <vikas> thanks again and good night
[17:27] <navin> (y)
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[17:27] <krishnakant> vikas: sure we will make this really revolutionary, this is just a start and we together will go a long way
[17:27] <jonas> too late :-P
[17:28] <krishnakant> yeah
[17:28] <krishnakant> navin: I am going too, we can meet hear more often, I have to look at angular js and also some rest
[17:28] <navin> ok
[17:28] <jonas> another nice tool if working from unreliable/slow connection is mosh
[17:28] <navin> good night
[17:28] <krishnakant> navin: lets clear icfoss finally tomorrow since all seems to be well now
[17:28] <navin> jonas: we'll look for that
[17:29] <navin> krishnakant: yup
[17:29] <krishnakant> good night every one signning off, happy hacking
[17:29] <jonas> install mosh on both server and client, and replace "ssh" with "mosh" when logging into server
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[17:29] <jonas> ...if logging into server with ssh at all, that is - if all is web'ified then mosh is no help
[17:30] <libregeekingkid> jonas: I will install another stretch machine now. Will install aprox on it
[17:30] <jonas> double "p": approx
[17:30] <libregeekingkid> approx*
[17:30] <libregeekingkid> jonas: yeah, yeah
[17:30] <jonas> :-)
[17:31] <jonas> how is it going with the Pune hackerspace?
[17:31] <libregeekingkid> jonas: Possesion of the space is still not done, but should be done in 2-3 days
[17:32] *** jonas crossing fingers to that!
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[17:35] <jonas> great!
[17:37] <libregeekingkid> jonas: could you add a small guide to setting up approx here https://pad.disroot.org/p/hamaraContributorMeeting29Dec2015
[17:38] <jonas> please just copy my microhowto
[17:40] <libregeekingkid> jonas: Cool with that.
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[18:27] <libregeekingkid> good night everyone
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