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[13:17: 4] <libregeekingkid[m]> I am getting on to building the ISO now. and resolve any bugs related to it,
[13:18: 0] <libregeekingkid[m]> Manas kashyap and anyone else You can also start with building the ISO as well. Ask here if in need of help.
[13:19: 4] <j4v4m4n> Hello! wiki's SSL certificate just expired at 3 June 2018, 11:23 AM. This needs to be fixed. fixed. Thanks
[13:19: 5] <j4v4m4n> isaagar: you can add a cron job to do it automatically, see poddery or dispin servers
[13:47: 4] <reflector[m]> > Manas kashyap and anyone else You can also start with building the ISO as well. Ask here if in need of help.
[13:47: 4] <reflector[m]> Yeah getting it, reading how to do it, i am new to this so no idea
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[15:41: 8] <libregeekingkid[m]> should we keep the distro name in code to `testing` instead of `buster` ? that way we would not have to change the base release name frequently in future releases.
[15:43: 9] <vik[m]> rajudev: i think we agreed to base sugam 2.0 and hamara 2.0 on buster
[15:43: 4] <vik[m]> we thought pinning to buster would be better
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[15:51: 9] <dhanesh95[m]> +1
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[16:04: 2] <vik[m]> rajudev: I think that's what we intended - for namaste to equal buster and eventually Debian stable
[16:05: 3] <vik[m]> Probably svastik too
[16:09: 8] <vik[m]> Hamara 3.0 might be the place to switch to the "new" testing version if that has happened up stream
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[16:36: 2] <libregeekingkid[m]> Vik: remember I kept insisting on mirroring our repositories to github, earlier. I don't anymore from today.
[16:44: 2] <isaagar[m]> > Hello! wiki's SSL certificate just expired at 3 June 2018, 11:23 AM. This needs to be fixed. fixed. Thanks I isaagar: you can add a cron job to do it automatically, see poddery or dispin servers
[16:44: 3] <isaagar[m]> it was cronjob failure which fixed by some enabling some disabled vhosts to renew certs
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[18:35: 3] <vik[m]> > Vik: remember I kept insisting on mirroring our repositories to github, earlier. I don't anymore from today.
[18:35: 4] <vik[m]> I expected github to become a valuable deal to someone at some point!
[18:36: 6] <dhanesh95[m]> Well played by Microsoft. Very well played.
[18:46: 2] Action: ShivaniBhardwajTelegram[m] sent a long message: ShivaniBhardwajTelegram[m]_2018-06-04_13:16:11.txt <https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/v1/download/matrix.org/ODNJusPDOuVaLAKoHTtZmSyN>
[18:48: 0] <j4v4m4n> people never learn from the past, they expect it will be different each time without understanding the fundamental issue of lock-in
[18:49: 1] <j4v4m4n> its not just github, any service controlled by a single company is a problem
[18:49: 8] <j4v4m4n> so telegram, facebook, whatsapp, google all suffers from this
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[20:07: 9] <libregeekingkid[m]> #388 has now been resolved. #389 seems to have problems. Installer is not starting.
[20:16: 1] <abhijithb21[m]> Pirate ðŸ´
[20:17: 3] <libregeekingkid[m]> Pirate ðŸ´
[20:23: 1] <j4v4m4n> rajudev: gitlab bought gitorious
[20:23: 5] <j4v4m4n> and even before Microsoft bought github, I did not recommend it
[20:24: 9] <libregeekingkid[m]> I know about the gitorius + gitlab deal.
[20:48: 6] <libregeekingkid[m]> I mentioned, because I just felt nostalgic. You used to teach me git there and on alioth.
[21:06: 0] <reflector[m]> @libregeekingkid:matrix.org: and you taught me Git and alioth
[21:29: 5] <j4v4m4n> alioth is also gone now, replaced with salsa/gitlab
[21:31: 3] <reflector[m]> Yeah
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[21:34: 4] <j4v4m4n> this is the fundamental problem with monopolies of any kind, you may have liked the people, liked the terms, but you never know when they get sold
[21:34: 5] <j4v4m4n> see WhatsApp, see Github
[21:35: 2] <reflector[m]> U taught me about salsa @praveen:poddery.com
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[21:39: 2] <j4v4m4n> sgk (Telegram): it is for us to choose, promote ideologies that match ours
[21:39: 4] <j4v4m4n> it is our choice to be the sheep or not
[21:41: 3] <j4v4m4n> were British evil when they colonised India? They also wanted business only. They had to use force to protect their business interests.
[21:49: 2] <sgkTelegram[m]> that is old story
[21:50: 8] <sgkTelegram[m]> now lots of organisations had proven very well that open core business works well
[21:50: 9] <sgkTelegram[m]> when they get guinee pigs for free
[21:50: 3] <j4v4m4n> sgk (Telegram): people who forget history are condemned to repeat it
[21:51: 3] <sgkTelegram[m]> not just open core
[21:51: 4] <sgkTelegram[m]> also to sell GPLV3 code to enterprises
[21:52: 0] <sgkTelegram[m]> am repeating nobody is pursuing evil strategies out of passion
[21:52: 1] <sgkTelegram[m]> once they realise the new model they change
[21:52: 6] <sgkTelegram[m]> and microsoft has changed a lot in past few years
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[22:18: 2] <j4v4m4n> sgk (Telegram): no, not them, the users are going to repeat history
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[22:31: 7] <vik[m]> > were British evil when they colonised India? They also wanted business only. They had to use force to protect their business interests.
[22:31: 8] <vik[m]> I do not think their intentions we're good
[22:32: 0] <vik[m]> and lots of the examples of using force would be "evil" in biblical terms
[22:33: 1] <vik[m]> github was always a bit of a worry for me, the free repo that hosts everyones code for free, because they are so cool - but the platform is closed
[22:33: 2] <vik[m]> that was always going to be sold on
[22:38: 3] <vik[m]> I guess businesses that are truly open source - have open source code bases
[22:41: 8] <reflector[m]> Like Hamara
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