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[12:10: 0] <libregeekingkid[m]> mentioned in distrowatch news: https://distrowatch.com/weekly.php?issue=20180827#waiting
[12:10: 4] <libregeekingkid[m]> We are now on distrowatch. Kudos to everyone
[12:28: 8] <unixia[m]> > mentioned in distrowatch news: https://distrowatch.com/weekly.php?issue=20180827#waiting
[12:28: 9] <unixia[m]> Awesome! 😊😃😃
[12:31: 6] <vik[m]> That's great 🙂
[12:32: 1] <vik[m]> Let's post that to other groups and our social media
[12:32: 4] <vik[m]> Well done everybody 🎉🎉
[12:43: 6] <deepak[m]> Good work. Onwards and upwards 👌
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[13:15: 0] <unixia[m]> Dhanesh Sabane: will you be able to moderate the meeting today?
[13:16: 1] <unixia[m]> rajudev: Available at 3 PM for at most an hour?
[13:18: 6] <unixia[m]> Oh, just realized there is a holiday today at TBS. Are we having the Hamara Dev call anyway? Dhanesh Sabane rajudev
[13:18: 7] <libregeekingkid[m]> unixia: we will be doing the dev call anyways.
[13:18: 4] <unixia[m]> OK great
[13:23: 9] <hamara-teleirc1> <I> Thats awesome :)
[13:30: 3] <vik[m]> Where is the call happening?
[13:31: 6] <unixia[m]> Vik: IRC if Dhanesh would moderate. Waiting for his response.
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[14:44: 1] <vik[m]> unixia: OK, will join
[14:58: 1] <unixia[m]> I think we'll have to fall back to jitsi @vik:diasp.in @libregeekingkid:matrix.org @dhanesh95:diasp.in @isaagar:diasp.in @reflector:matrix.org
[15:04: 2] <vik[m]> OK, we can try that
[15:05: 2] <vik[m]> unixia: has it been working OK for you?
[15:05: 3] <unixia[m]> Yes
[15:05: 8] <unixia[m]> I use mobile app for some time now
[15:05: 2] <unixia[m]> It works fine
[15:05: 5] <vik[m]> OK, let's do that then
[15:06: 3] <unixia[m]> rajudev: Dhanesh Sabane joining?
[15:06: 9] <vik[m]> I have been working in an alternative which performs better, but let's not test that yet 😁
[15:06: 3] <unixia[m]> I think I have had a call with you on that alternative once
[15:07: 7] <unixia[m]> It worked well
[15:12: 3] <unixia[m]> Vik: joining?
[15:12: 8] <unixia[m]> at /hamara
[15:12: 3] <vik[m]> On techblue?
[15:13: 1] <unixia[m]> Yes
[15:13: 9] <vik[m]> 2 mins
[16:13: 7] <dhanesh95|m> Apologies everyone.
[16:13: 5] <dhanesh95|m> Had to run some personal errands.
[16:13: 3] <dhanesh95|m> Did the call happen?
[16:15: 0] <unixia[m]> https://github.com/riscv/riscv-gnu-toolchain
[16:18: 8] Action: unixia[m] sent a long message: < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/v1/download/matrix.org/GQTUzlbFPaGrLnzScFomTLNV >
[16:18: 3] <unixia[m]> cc: rajudev Vik ^^
[16:19: 7] <dhanesh95|m> unixia: Documentation migration is done without localisation. We'll take it up after the alpha release.
[16:20: 0] <unixia[m]> Yes. Sounds good
[16:20: 9] <unixia[m]> Alpha release is just in a month so we thought maybe better to focus on that ATM
[16:20: 0] <dhanesh95|m> About bugs, there is no migration needed from Bugzilla for Svastik. Just start filing all bugs on GitLab itself.
[16:21: 5] <dhanesh95|m> > https://github.com/riscv/riscv-gnu-toolchain
[16:21: 5] <dhanesh95|m> Are those the details you were going to share over email with me?
[16:21: 4] <dhanesh95|m> unixia ^^
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[16:23: 4] Action: unixia[m] sent a long message: < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/v1/download/matrix.org/ypsfiGQtdYyHYClsiYbHzReb >
[16:25: 1] <unixia[m]> I am going to start taking notes and share with everyone maybe not on email
[16:25: 3] <unixia[m]> Forwarding you the SHAKTI's email
[16:25: 3] <unixia[m]> Please PM me your email ID?
[16:26: 8] <dhanesh95|m> You might want to make notes on the Etherpad attached to this room.
[16:26: 7] <unixia[m]> OK
[16:27: 9] <dhanesh95|m> Also, can we start filing bugs on GitLab so that everyone knows what actions are required?
[16:41: 2] <unixia[m]> Dhanesh Sabane: Maybe on bugzilla? Case in point being: https://wiki.hamaralinux.org/wiki/index.php/Hamara_Sugam_2.0/Release_Notes
[16:41: 3] <unixia[m]> The integration of bugzilla with mediawiki and being able to see the issues corresponding to a product on its page on wiki.
[17:27: 9] <dhanesh95|m> unixia: Fine. No issues. But let's get crackin'!
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[17:35: 4] <baimafeima> Hi guys, just read about hamara today
[17:37: 1] <baimafeima> I know you use the MATE desktop, but what is the base system or is it developed as an independent system with its own repository and tooling?
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[17:40: 3] <hamara-teleirc1> <rajudev> baimafema, Welcome here.
[17:40: 2] <hamara-teleirc1> <rajudev> The base system is derived from Debian, and we have our own repositories as well.
[17:41: 1] <dhanesh95|m> Rebooting the teleirc bridge. Expect some downtime.
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[17:46: 7] <dhanesh95> Test
[17:46: 7] <hamara-teleirc> <rajudev> test reply
[17:46: 8] <dhanesh95|m> Cool
[17:49: 8] <baimafeima> hamara-teleirc, thanks
[17:49: 4] <baimafeima> hamara-teleirc, which version of debian?
[17:50: 2] <baimafeima> would there be a possibility to make your language optimizations also available for Solus?
[17:53: 1] <libregeekingkid[m]> baimafeima, We are using Debian Testing as the base. we recently had a discussion about collaborating with other distributions on various efforts. We are open for discussions on collaboration on various fronts.
[17:58: 0] <baimafeima> libregeekingkid[m], that sounds great, I currently use Solus as my main system but I'm looking into three other systems which could be very innovative: voidlinux, mx linux and devuan
[17:58: 8] <baimafeima> was there a reason to base it on another system rather than building your own?
[17:58: 5] <baimafeima> there are so many derivatives and so on...or would you long-term goal be to become independent?
[18:26: 7] <dhanesh95|m> Could anyone elaborate on the second goal for our Alpha release - Svastik logo?
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[18:50: 5] <vik[m]> baimafeima :
[18:50: 6] <vik[m]> > there are so many derivatives and so on...or would you long-term goal be to become independent?
[18:50: 7] <vik[m]> There is much work involved in maintaining an independent distro and we have a small team, so being a derivative helps us and we can also contribute back into Debian. This seems a good fit right now.
[18:50: 7] <vik[m]> Derivatives can have there own individual goals whilst also doing their bit to assist upstream
[18:50: 3] <vik[m]> Who knows what the future holds though!
[18:59: 6] <baimafeima> vik[m], I see, why would you start a new distro rather than contributing directly to debian? are there any particular reasons why just contributing is not enough?
[19:00: 1] <vik[m]> baimafeima: there are quite a few reasons
[19:01: 8] <vik[m]> Our goals are slightly different in that we wish to provide for the needs of Indian users specifically
[19:02: 4] <vik[m]> Also we want newer packages than Debian stable
[19:02: 7] <vik[m]> We also offer a place for new people to contribute who may not immediately get on with the Debian process
[19:03: 7] <vik[m]> Hamara is a good path to becoming a Debian developer too
[19:04: 6] <baimafeima> vik[m], I see, what about Solus as a base system or contributing to Solus?
[19:05: 8] <baimafeima> it's very accessible, growing fast, curated rolling release, rock-stable
[19:05: 2] <baimafeima> latest (cutting edge) packages
[19:07: 6] <hamara-teleirc> <Aakash> I like to know same question you put did up! <baimafeima> was there a reason to base it on another system rather than building your own?
[19:07: 6] <hamara-teleirc> Why Solos? When other cutting edge is available?
[19:07: 8] <hamara-teleirc> <Aakash> I like to know same question you did put up! <baimafeima> was there a reason to base it on another system rather than building your own?
[19:07: 8] <hamara-teleirc> Why Solos? When other cutting edge is available?
[19:09: 2] <hamara-teleirc> <Aakash> Interesting support & services are readily available form kernel to application level; wheres new distros rely on updates only from other distros??
[19:09: 9] <isaagar[m]> Dhanesh Sabane: did you complete doc setup server side ?
[19:10: 4] <baimafeima> hamara-teleirc, do you have a software center and offer an out-of-the-box experience=
[19:11: 8] <hamara-teleirc> <Aakash> If there is a bug on kernel like specter how will you solve for clients wheres as you have to wait until someone works at linux kernel!!
[19:11: 6] <hamara-teleirc> <Aakash> *spectre meltdown! Bug?
[19:13: 4] <dhanesh95|m> > <@isaagar:diasp.in> Dhanesh Sabane: did you complete doc setup server side ?
[19:13: 4] <dhanesh95|m> Nope. It has been put on hold. I want to ship it with the localisation support. So we'll wait until after the Alpha release.
[19:13: 5] <dhanesh95|m> > hamara-teleirc, do you have a software center and offer an out-of-the-box experience=
[19:14: 2] <dhanesh95|m> baimafeima:
[19:14: 3] <dhanesh95|m> > hamara-teleirc, do you have a software center and offer an out-of-the-box experience=
[19:14: 3] <dhanesh95|m> The software center is currently under development.
[19:14: 0] <baimafeima> dhanesh95|m, oh i see, that's great news, will it be forked from another or built independently?
[19:17: 4] <dhanesh95|m> baimafeima: It will be the GNOME software app. We'll include it in our upcoming release.
[19:25: 5] <baimafeima> dhanesh95|m, I see, but does gnome software work with the debian testing repo?
[19:27: 1] <vik[m]> > <Aakash> If there is a bug on kernel like specter how will you solve for clients wheres as you have to wait until someone works at linux kernel!!
[19:27: 2] <vik[m]> Anyone can contribute to the Linux kernel
[19:29: 6] <vik[m]> baimafeima: I think we found it easier to find people willing to build something based on Debian and also had more knowledge ourselves after originally basing on Ubuntu (we then shifted to Debian)
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[19:29: 8] <hamara-teleirc> Production machines are expensive & costs business!
[19:30: 0] <hamara-teleirc> <Aakash> This temporary patch is from distributor!
[19:31: 5] <vik[m]> We are able to provide similar where customers require support for production systems
[19:32: 8] <hamara-teleirc> <Aakash> You need kernel engineers then?
[19:32: 9] <vik[m]> Some of the team are involved in supporting pretty huge infrastructure for multi nationals
[19:32: 6] <vik[m]> Always 😁
[19:33: 2] <hamara-teleirc> <Aakash> Ok thats great!
[19:33: 2] <hamara-teleirc> ..though Ive been in kernel for long double *time;😄
[19:33: 1] <vik[m]> Were about to start working on RISC V so that we can support shakti processors
[19:33: 3] <vik[m]> Kernel engineers would be very welcome!
[19:34: 6] <hamara-teleirc> <Aakash> Yeah! I saw that. Im aware of it well.
[19:34: 0] <vik[m]> Back soon
[19:34: 6] <dhanesh95|m> baimafeima:
[19:34: 7] <dhanesh95|m> > dhanesh95|m, I see, but does gnome software work with the debian testing repo?
[19:34: 7] <dhanesh95|m> It sure does.
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[19:40: 0] <baimafeima> are you guys all based in india?
[19:41: 8] <baimafeima> how to make your previous comment, vik[m]
[19:41: 3] <baimafeima> *is making soup
[19:41: 0] <baimafeima> *is making soup*
[19:41: 6] <baimafeima> how does this command work in irc?
[19:41: 8] <dhanesh95> baimafeima: Use /me and type what you want
[19:42: 1] Action: baimafeima makes soup
[19:42: 7] <baimafeima> dhanesh95, thanks :
[19:42: 8] <dhanesh95> baimafeima: Most of us are in India. Some are in the UK. Like vik[m]
[19:42: 8] <baimafeima> :)
[19:42: 4] <dhanesh95> baimafeima: You're welcome. :)
[19:43: 5] <baimafeima> dhanesh95, nice, are you guys more in the open source or free software camp?
[20:24: 0] <vik[m]> baimafeima: for me its open source right now and I'd like to head to free software in the future 😁
[20:26: 9] <baimafeima> vik[m], I see
[20:26: 8] <baimafeima> would be great to combine the pragmatist and ethical dimension yeah
[20:33: 1] <dhanesh95> baimafeima: The team is a mix of people from OS and FOSS camps
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[22:09: 3] <libregeekingkid[m]> Mutter: 👋
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[22:20: 7] <reflector[m]> @unixia:matrix.org: status of font packaging??
[22:21: 7] <unixia[m]> Manas kashyap: Nothing so far.
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[23:18: 6] <reflector[m]> okay cool
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